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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.27 21:19:39 -
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this decision makes me happy.
good call. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.28 08:21:42 -
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came for the inevitable carbear tears, left soaked.
10/10, would paddle in the lake of tears again. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.28 13:49:47 -
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i'm just going to throw it out there;
if you don't want to be a victim of hyperdunking because you're bad at flying a freighter, courrier contracts are cheaper than a second rate hooker. |
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Posted - 2015.01.28 14:09:56 -
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Aleksi Bocharov wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Or you can rob a corp. Or you can convince them to go to lowsec and kill them there, or you can bait them into a wartarget alt. The only thing that's been removed is the easiest form of awoxing. The fact that you describe it as the removal of the playstyle shows that you don't want to have to put any effort in, you just want things handed to you. Well tough luck buddy. Hey if you don't want your freighter bumped and ganked, just use a DST or a cloaky hauler and make several trips. The only thing that's "been removed" is the easiest form of HiSec haulage. The fact that you describe it as the removal of a playsytle shows you don't want to have to put any effort in, you just want things handed to you. Well tough luck buddy.
it's not even being removed, over all nothing is changing.
except a guy with no friends online or close by at the time got a ban overturned for clever use of game mechanics. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.28 15:30:50 -
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Erika Mizune wrote:The one thing I am not seeing addressed in the OP is the bumping they do to keep you in place while they are reshipping into the new catalysts, after getting Concorded.
In the past, CCP has stated that this type of bumping is considered harassment, and this is a main part of this type of gank. You have a set of Shuttles, Catalysts, the Bowhead, and a ship that is designated to keep the freighter bumped to hell (Usually a Machariel) so they are pretty much screwed to even try to do anything.
Unless I missed it somewhere in the pages, what about the bumping? Is that type of bumping not considered harassment anymore?
i think it basically boils down to "if you're bumping some one just for the sake of bumping them" then yeah, it comes under harrassment.
however if you're bumping them as a means to some other end [extortion, setting them up to be ganked, etc], then it's fine. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.28 15:37:17 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Hilarious. You use a bunch of 3 mil isk fit ships to gank a 1.5bil ship with untold isk of cargo... and you want to talk about the cost of Catalysts? Troll
remind me why 1 pilot should be able to beat 3 pilots? especially when that one pilot willingly chose to fly a ship with 0 offensive capabilities.
edit: oh wait, you mentioned cost not number of pilots... but the point still stands, you're going to need more than one catalyst. |
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Posted - 2015.01.28 15:40:52 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Hilarious. You use a bunch of 3 mil isk fit ships to gank a 1.5bil ship with untold isk of cargo... and you want to talk about the cost of Catalysts? Troll
remind me why 1 pilot should be able to beat 3 pilots? especially when that one pilot willingly chose to fly a ship with 0 offensive capabilities. 1 pilot isn't "beating" anything simply by surviving... You have a warped sense of "beating"
the end result is some one ending up without a ship, i'd say that would classify some one as beaten.
*shrug* |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2015.01.28 15:49:54 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Hilarious. You use a bunch of 3 mil isk fit ships to gank a 1.5bil ship with untold isk of cargo... and you want to talk about the cost of Catalysts? Troll
remind me why 1 pilot should be able to beat 3 pilots? especially when that one pilot willingly chose to fly a ship with 0 offensive capabilities. 1 pilot isn't "beating" anything simply by surviving... You have a warped sense of "beating" the end result is some one ending up without a ship, i'd say that would classify some one as beaten. *shrug* The person without a ship did it themselves... consciously Seriously put more effort into this.
the parting in your hair, i love it.
must have happened as the point sailed over your head.
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Dave stark
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Posted - 2015.01.28 15:53:03 -
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Zendon Taredi wrote:TheMeanPerson wrote:Lets be serious here guys, I hate to be the debbie downer for freighter and industrial pilots, but no matter what happens. If you fly with something worth ganking, your going to get ganked. Just be smart, dont go afk, use a webber. OTHERWISE, you will end up like the people inside of the player hugh forehead's biography EVERY TIME. WE will FIND you. Hyperdunking or not. And what isnt worth ganking when you are using catalysts? before the problem was getting a fleet large enough to gank freighters with catalysts, now that problem is gone meaning that anyone with an alt or two can take down a freighter at a cost of what, 20m? Yes, we can get escort, in the form of a webber or a guadian etc but that will double the cost of hauling and that cost will be passed along to the consumers. Also, it would delete this ganking gameplay that people seem to enjoy. Basically less fun for me, and for you. Also, can we stop pretending that you are somehow immune to the freighter network being diminished? I mean the entire game runs on deliveries being made in freighters around the clock. It's also boring as **** and not especially profitable. So, how far do you want to push these people?
the cost hasn't changed.
that's fine, hauling is still cheaper than a second rate hooker anyway. even if the prices did double i'd still outsource my hauling because it'd still be comically cheap.
eh, it has been a reasonably long time since i had to create a courrier contract, or haul anything in a freighter myself. so yes, i am pretty immune to it being diminished. as for how far do i want to push them? far enough so they'll actually stop whining about ganks, and start protecting their cargo. |
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Posted - 2015.01.28 15:56:51 -
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Aleksi Bocharov wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Either way, joining a highsec corp to shoot members on it's own is not a playstyle Source?
doubt he'll find one, since there's literally a whole community built around said activity. |
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.29 08:05:02 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Are we even talking about 'hyperdunking' anymore?
It seems the thread has de-evolved into 'Nerf gankers/Catalysts' thread # 2881773374 at this point....
always does because clueless mongs harp on about 2m isk catalysts doing 1k dps are killing the game (you know, killing a game that thrives on destruction), and then the usual people trying to educate people who wallow in their own ignorance and stupidity.
if we got rid of the clueless mongs and their misinformation, there would be no need to spew pages and pages of corrections and we could actually have a concise and useful thread on most topics. |
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:15:45 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Why should I need a fleet? EVE is a sandbox, and I should be able to play it however I want. I shouldn't be forced to have a fleet just because some angry kid wants to troll people.
why should you need a fleet?
you don't, courrier contracts exist. |
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Posted - 2015.01.30 11:01:37 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:I don't like this ruling, because it clearly sets the precedent that drawing Concord off-grid to prolong a ganking before Concord can turn around and blow up the criminal's ship - would be 100% legal. I've been hoping that CCP would have made a decision that prevented this, because in a way, they're still avoiding Concord (even if temporarily), which at the time was considered an exploit.
pretty sure influencing concord's location by boarding noobships/shuttles etc has been done for a long time before this.
like pretty much every standard suicide gank where the gankers will undock in noob ships to pull concord away from the gate they just ganked on, so they can resume ganking on that gate as soon as their gcc ends.
it isn't setting a precedent, it's following one.
and concord hasn't been avoided, every time a ship has been boarded, it has been destroyed. |
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Posted - 2015.01.30 13:41:37 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:If we were going to be realistic about it, someone who committed the exact same crime 30 times in a row would be getting a life senten If we're being realistic about it, the cop's response time is thirty minutes, not thirty seconds.
and then they tell you that there's not much they can do about it because apparently a man in his mid 20s wearing dark jeans and a hoodie isn't a unique enough description. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.01.31 09:06:40 -
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Malcanis wrote:Also can anyone point out a hyperdunked freighter killmail where the freighter has any modules that might even slightly help it to escape? WCS? Istab?
a webbing alt doesn't show up on a kill mail, i'm afraid. |
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Posted - 2015.01.31 11:12:32 -
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Malcanis wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Malcanis wrote:Also can anyone point out a hyperdunked freighter killmail where the freighter has any modules that might even slightly help it to escape? WCS? Istab? a webbing alt doesn't show up on a kill mail, i'm afraid. Shouldn't the web alt show up on the list of aggressing ships?
If the webbing alt was present, there wouldn't be a killmail! |
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Posted - 2015.01.31 13:37:52 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Know how I'd "fix" this whole hyperdunking thing?
you can't fix something that isn't broken. |
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